In this recent podcast episode of Real Estate Underground with Ed Matthews, listeners get an inside look at how a former pro hockey player turned a bold career pivot into a thriving real estate and outsourcing empire.

The conversation kicks off with how a leap of faith—and skipping a traditional college degree—led to a full-time real estate investing career. From door-knocking and short sales to flipping over a thousand properties, the journey is nothing short of gritty and inspiring.

But the real game-changer? Discovering virtual assistants. What started as a solution for overwhelmed investors has grown into REVA Global, a company that now powers real estate businesses nationwide with trained, college-educated VAs handling everything from lead generation to backend systems.

This episode dives deep into why systems, consistent action, and outsourcing are critical for scaling without burning out. It’s packed with real talk about investing during market shifts, why cash flow beats comfort zones, and how partnerships can turn small deals into big wins.

For anyone stuck between a 9-to-5 and their real estate goals, this episode delivers a clear message: You don’t need to start on third base—you just need the right team behind you.